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'''Antenne à positionner, Aide au positionnement:'''
'''[https://www.cartoradio.fr/index.html#/cartographie/lonlat/0.2208/44.8744 Support ANFR n°507595 ( H:72m)]'''


'''[https://www.cartoradio.fr/index.html#/cartographie/lonlat/0.1819/44.889 CARTORADIO]'''
'''Opérateurs sur ce support (ANFR):'''[https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=208&MNC=1&type=LTE&latitude=44.8746&longitude=0.2209&zoom=15&showTowers=true&showIcons=false&showTowerLabels=true&clusterEnabled=false&tilesEnabled=false&showOrphans=true&showNoFrequencyOnly=false&showFrequencyOnly=false&showBandwidthOnly=false&DateFilterType=None&showHex=false&showVerifiedOnly=false&showUnverifiedOnly=false&showLTECAOnly=false&showENDCOnly=false&showBand=0&showSectorColours=true&mapType=roadmap&darkMode=false&imperialUnits=false 🟠][https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=208&MNC=10&type=LTE&latitude=44.8746&longitude=0.2209&zoom=15&showTowers=true&showIcons=false&showTowerLabels=true&clusterEnabled=false&tilesEnabled=false&showOrphans=true&showNoFrequencyOnly=false&showFrequencyOnly=false&showBandwidthOnly=false&DateFilterType=None&showHex=false&showVerifiedOnly=false&showUnverifiedOnly=false&showLTECAOnly=false&showENDCOnly=false&showBand=0&showSectorColours=true&mapType=roadmap&darkMode=false&imperialUnits=false 🔴][https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=208&MNC=15&type=LTE&latitude=44.8746&longitude=0.2209&zoom=15&showTowers=true&showIcons=false&showTowerLabels=true&clusterEnabled=false&tilesEnabled=false&showOrphans=true&showNoFrequencyOnly=false&showFrequencyOnly=false&showBandwidthOnly=false&DateFilterType=None&showHex=false&showVerifiedOnly=false&showUnverifiedOnly=false&showLTECAOnly=false&showENDCOnly=false&showBand=0&showSectorColours=true&mapType=roadmap&darkMode=false&imperialUnits=false ⚫][https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=208&MNC=20&type=LTE&latitude=44.8746&longitude=0.2209&zoom=15&showTowers=true&showIcons=false&showTowerLabels=true&clusterEnabled=false&tilesEnabled=false&showOrphans=true&showNoFrequencyOnly=false&showFrequencyOnly=false&showBandwidthOnly=false&DateFilterType=None&showHex=false&showVerifiedOnly=false&showUnverifiedOnly=false&showLTECAOnly=false&showENDCOnly=false&showBand=0&showSectorColours=true&mapType=roadmap&darkMode=false&imperialUnits=false 🔵]


'''[https://data.anfr.fr/visualisation/map/?id=observatoire_2g_3g_4g&refine.adm_lb_nom=ORANGE&refine.statut=En%20service&refine.generation=4G&geofilter.distance=44.889%2C0.1819%2C1000 ANFR]'''
'''[https://www.cartoradio.fr/index.html#/cartographie/lonlat/0.2208/44.8744 CARTORADIO]'''
 
'''[https://data.anfr.fr/visualisation/table/?id=observatoire_2g_3g_4g&refine.sup_id=507595 ANFR]'''


'''[https://enb-analytics.fr/page_recherche_analyse.html?type=enb&plmn=20801&val=73244 EAnalytics]'''
'''[https://enb-analytics.fr/page_recherche_analyse.html?type=enb&plmn=20801&val=73244 EAnalytics]'''


[https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=208&MNC=1&type=LTE&latitude=44.889&longitude=0.1819&zoom=15&showTowers=true&showIcons=false&showTowerLabels=true&clusterEnabled=false&tilesEnabled=false&showOrphans=true&showNoFrequencyOnly=false&showFrequencyOnly=false&showBandwidthOnly=false&DateFilterType=None&showHex=false&showVerifiedOnly=false&showUnverifiedOnly=false&showLTECAOnly=false&showENDCOnly=false&showBand=0&showSectorColours=true&mapType=roadmap&darkMode=false&imperialUnits=false Cette antenne]
'''[https://www.google.com/maps/search/?api=1&query=44.8744%2C0.2208 MAPS]'''
 
Distance comparaison ANFR: 18m
 
'''{{:ANFR ID 507595}}'''
 
[https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=208&MNC=1&type=LTE&latitude=44.8746&longitude=0.2209&zoom=15&showTowers=true&showIcons=false&showTowerLabels=true&clusterEnabled=false&tilesEnabled=false&showOrphans=true&showNoFrequencyOnly=false&showFrequencyOnly=false&showBandwidthOnly=false&DateFilterType=None&showHex=false&showVerifiedOnly=false&showUnverifiedOnly=false&showLTECAOnly=false&showENDCOnly=false&showBand=0&showSectorColours=true&mapType=roadmap&darkMode=false&imperialUnits=false Cette antenne]


[[208 Index|Index France (208)]]
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Latest revision as of 15:59, 16 September 2024

Support ANFR n°507595 ( H:72m)

Opérateurs sur ce support (ANFR):🟠🔴⚫🔵

CARTORADIO

ANFR

EAnalytics

MAPS

Distance comparaison ANFR: 18m

Support ANFR n°507595 🗺️/📷
Nature Tour hertzienne
Hauteur TOT 72.0m
Propriétaire TDF
Exploitants BOUYGUES TELECOM, EDF, FREE MOBILE, ORANGE, SFR, TDF
Nb antennes 39
Antenne TDF
Hauteur 57.0m
Type Dipôle/Doublet
Orientations (2) 180.0°, 180.0°
Emetteur(s)
FM
- TDF: ✅ 21/01/1993
↳ 20.5 MHz (87.5 MHz-108.0 MHz)
Antenne EDF
Hauteur 47.0m
Type Dipôle/Doublet
Orientation (1) N/A
Emetteur(s)
COM TER
- EDF: ✅ 01/12/2011
↳ 0.7 MHz (68.5 MHz-69.2 MHz)
↳ 0.8 MHz (72.5 MHz-73.3 MHz)
Antenne TDF
Hauteur 32.0m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 89.3°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- TDF: ✅ 23/03/2011
↳ 150.0 MHz (8025.0 MHz-8175.0 MHz)
↳ 185.0 MHz (8215.0 MHz-8400.0 MHz)
↳ 185.0 MHz (8215.0 MHz-8400.0 MHz)
↳ 40.0 MHz (8175.0 MHz-8215.0 MHz)
Antenne TDF
Hauteur 45.0m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 89.3°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- TDF: ✅ 23/03/2011
↳ 150.0 MHz (8025.0 MHz-8175.0 MHz)
↳ 40.0 MHz (8175.0 MHz-8215.0 MHz)
Antenne TDF
Hauteur 45.0m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 264.3°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- TDF: ✅ 23/03/2011
↳ 150.0 MHz (8025.0 MHz-8175.0 MHz)
Antenne TDF
Hauteur 57.7m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 264.3°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- TDF: ✅ 23/03/2011
↳ 150.0 MHz (8025.0 MHz-8175.0 MHz)
↳ 185.0 MHz (8215.0 MHz-8400.0 MHz)
Antenne TDF
Hauteur 57.0m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 94.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- TDF: ✅ 20/09/2017
↳ 150.0 MHz (8025.0 MHz-8175.0 MHz)
↳ 185.0 MHz (8215.0 MHz-8400.0 MHz)
Antenne TDF
Hauteur 51.0m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 335.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- TDF: ✅ 25/04/2022
↳ 0.4 GHz (17.7 GHz-18.1 GHz)
↳ 0.5 GHz (18.8 GHz-19.3 GHz)
Antenne FREE MOBILE
Hauteur 63.0m
Type Panneau
Orientations (2) 90.0°, 320.0°
Emetteur(s)
5G - 5G NR 700
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 15/12/2020
↳ 10.0 MHz (723.0 MHz-733.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (778.0 MHz-788.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 1800
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 09/08/2016
↳ 15.0 MHz (1750.0 MHz-1765.0 MHz)
↳ 15.0 MHz (1845.0 MHz-1860.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 2100
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 13/05/2024
↳ 14.8 MHz (1950.1 MHz-1964.9 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2140.1 MHz-2154.9 MHz)
4G - LTE 2600
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 17/11/2015
↳ 20.0 MHz (2550.0 MHz-2570.0 MHz)
↳ 20.0 MHz (2670.0 MHz-2690.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 700
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 21/01/2019
↳ 10.0 MHz (723.0 MHz-733.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (778.0 MHz-788.0 MHz)
3G - UMTS 900
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 30/12/2014
↳ 5.0 MHz (899.9 MHz-904.9 MHz)
↳ 5.0 MHz (944.9 MHz-949.9 MHz)
Antenne FREE MOBILE
Hauteur 62.2m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 32.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 31/03/2015
↳ 3.0 GHz (71.0 GHz-74.0 GHz)
Antenne FREE MOBILE
Hauteur 32.0m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 113.1°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 31/03/2015
↳ 0.1 GHz (18.7 GHz-18.8 GHz)
Antenne FREE MOBILE
Hauteur 31.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 335.3°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 17/08/2016
↳ 0.5 GHz (18.8 GHz-19.3 GHz)
Antenne FREE MOBILE
Hauteur 62.2m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 261.6°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 02/04/2019
↳ 0.5 GHz (18.8 GHz-19.3 GHz)
Antenne FREE MOBILE
Hauteur 62.2m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 64.2°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 08/10/2021
↳ 0.5 GHz (18.8 GHz-19.3 GHz)
Antenne ORANGE
Hauteur 63.2m
Type Panneau
Orientations (3) 90.0°, 210.0°, 320.0°
Emetteur(s)
4G - LTE 1800
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 05/03/2018
↳ 20.0 MHz (1710.0 MHz-1730.0 MHz)
↳ 20.0 MHz (1805.0 MHz-1825.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 2100
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 29/12/2021
↳ 14.8 MHz (1964.9 MHz-1979.7 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2154.9 MHz-2169.7 MHz)
4G - LTE 700
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 18/10/2021
↳ 10.0 MHz (708.0 MHz-718.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (763.0 MHz-773.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 800
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 19/01/2017
↳ 10.0 MHz (811.0 MHz-821.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (852.0 MHz-862.0 MHz)
3G - UMTS 900
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 04/12/2015
↳ 8.7 MHz (889.9 MHz-898.6 MHz)
↳ 8.7 MHz (934.9 MHz-943.6 MHz)
2G - GSM 900
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 13/08/2005
↳ 8.7 MHz (889.9 MHz-898.6 MHz)
↳ 8.7 MHz (934.9 MHz-943.6 MHz)
Antenne BOUYGUES TELECOM, SFR
Hauteur 63.3m
Type Panneau
Orientations (2) 60.0°, 300.0°
Emetteur(s)
5G - 5G NR 2100
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 19/01/2023
↳ 14.8 MHz (1920.5 MHz-1935.3 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2110.5 MHz-2125.3 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 08/03/2023
↳ 14.8 MHz (1935.3 MHz-1950.1 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2125.3 MHz-2140.1 MHz)
4G - LTE 1800
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 29/03/2017
↳ 20.0 MHz (1730.0 MHz-1750.0 MHz)
↳ 20.0 MHz (1825.0 MHz-1845.0 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 16/05/2017
↳ 20.0 MHz (1765.0 MHz-1785.0 MHz)
↳ 20.0 MHz (1860.0 MHz-1880.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 2100
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 19/01/2023
↳ 14.8 MHz (1920.5 MHz-1935.3 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2110.5 MHz-2125.3 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 27/01/2023
↳ 14.8 MHz (1935.3 MHz-1950.1 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2125.3 MHz-2140.1 MHz)
4G - LTE 800
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 20/12/2016
↳ 10.0 MHz (801.0 MHz-811.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (842.0 MHz-852.0 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 16/05/2017
↳ 10.0 MHz (791.0 MHz-801.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (832.0 MHz-842.0 MHz)
3G - UMTS 900
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 15/12/2011
↳ 8.7 MHz (906.2 MHz-914.9 MHz)
↳ 8.7 MHz (951.2 MHz-959.9 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 16/05/2017
↳ 9.8 MHz (880.1 MHz-889.9 MHz)
↳ 9.8 MHz (925.1 MHz-934.9 MHz)
2G - GSM 900
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 02/08/2002
↳ 8.7 MHz (906.2 MHz-914.9 MHz)
↳ 8.7 MHz (951.2 MHz-959.9 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 16/05/2017
↳ 9.8 MHz (880.1 MHz-889.9 MHz)
↳ 9.8 MHz (925.1 MHz-934.9 MHz)
Antenne BOUYGUES TELECOM, SFR
Hauteur 63.3m
Type Panneau
Orientation (1) 180.0°
Emetteur(s)
5G - 5G NR 2100
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 19/01/2023
↳ 14.8 MHz (1920.5 MHz-1935.3 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2110.5 MHz-2125.3 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 08/03/2023
↳ 14.8 MHz (1935.3 MHz-1950.1 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2125.3 MHz-2140.1 MHz)
4G - LTE 1800
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 29/03/2017
↳ 20.0 MHz (1730.0 MHz-1750.0 MHz)
↳ 20.0 MHz (1825.0 MHz-1845.0 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 16/05/2017
↳ 20.0 MHz (1765.0 MHz-1785.0 MHz)
↳ 20.0 MHz (1860.0 MHz-1880.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 2100
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 19/01/2023
↳ 14.8 MHz (1920.5 MHz-1935.3 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2110.5 MHz-2125.3 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 27/01/2023
↳ 14.8 MHz (1935.3 MHz-1950.1 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2125.3 MHz-2140.1 MHz)
4G - LTE 800
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 20/12/2016
↳ 10.0 MHz (801.0 MHz-811.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (842.0 MHz-852.0 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 16/05/2017
↳ 10.0 MHz (791.0 MHz-801.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (832.0 MHz-842.0 MHz)
3G - UMTS 900
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 15/12/2011
↳ 8.7 MHz (906.2 MHz-914.9 MHz)
↳ 8.7 MHz (951.2 MHz-959.9 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 16/05/2017
↳ 9.8 MHz (880.1 MHz-889.9 MHz)
↳ 9.8 MHz (925.1 MHz-934.9 MHz)
2G - GSM 900
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 08/02/2002
↳ 8.7 MHz (906.2 MHz-914.9 MHz)
↳ 8.7 MHz (951.2 MHz-959.9 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 16/05/2017
↳ 9.8 MHz (880.1 MHz-889.9 MHz)
↳ 9.8 MHz (925.1 MHz-934.9 MHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 51.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 75.7°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 17/11/2016
↳ 0.4 GHz (19.3 GHz-19.7 GHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 51.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 159.5°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ❓
↳ 0.2 GHz (22.2 GHz-22.4 GHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 51.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 264.5°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 04/12/2018
↳ 0.4 GHz (19.3 GHz-19.7 GHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 51.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 64.2°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 26/07/2013
↳ 0.4 GHz (12.8 GHz-13.2 GHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 51.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 113.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 10/11/2020
↳ 0.4 GHz (19.3 GHz-19.7 GHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 51.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 194.5°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 28/02/2023
↳ 3.0 GHz (71.0 GHz-74.0 GHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 51.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 113.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 10/11/2020
↳ 0.5 GHz (18.8 GHz-19.3 GHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 51.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 240.8°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 16/03/2021
↳ 0.4 GHz (19.3 GHz-19.7 GHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 34.0m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 194.5°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ❓
↳ 1.0 GHz (38.5 GHz-39.5 GHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 51.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 143.4°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 28/11/2022
↳ 0.7 GHz (32.3 GHz-33.0 GHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 51.3m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 159.5°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ❓
↳ 3.0 GHz (71.0 GHz-74.0 GHz)
Antenne BOUYGUES TELECOM
Hauteur 34.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 113.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 04/12/2006
↳ 500.0 MHz (5925.0 MHz-6425.0 MHz)
Antenne BOUYGUES TELECOM
Hauteur 34.8m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 301.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 20/05/2019
↳ 0.5 GHz (18.8 GHz-19.3 GHz)
Antenne BOUYGUES TELECOM
Hauteur 56.8m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 44.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 06/02/2020
↳ 1.0 GHz (10.7 GHz-11.7 GHz)
Antenne BOUYGUES TELECOM
Hauteur 33.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 263.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ❓
↳ 500.0 MHz (5925.0 MHz-6425.0 MHz)
Antenne BOUYGUES TELECOM
Hauteur 51.3m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 184.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 04/05/2022
↳ 0.4 GHz (33.0 GHz-33.4 GHz)
Antenne BOUYGUES TELECOM
Hauteur 34.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 113.0°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ❓
↳ 1.0 GHz (10.7 GHz-11.7 GHz)
Station N°0240130241
Exploitant TDF
Implantation 08/11/2013
Mise en service 21/01/1993
Modification 25/04/2022
Station N°0240130242
Exploitant TDF
Implantation 08/11/2013
Mise en service 21/01/1993
Modification 25/04/2022
Station N°0240230015
Exploitant EDF
Implantation 02/09/1994
Mise en service 01/12/2011
Modification 21/04/2023
Station N°0240770007
Exploitant TDF
Implantation 07/11/2003
Mise en service 23/03/2011
Modification 22/09/2023
Station N°0240990029
Exploitant FREE MOBILE
Implantation 18/04/2014
Mise en service 30/12/2014
Modification 26/07/2024
Station N°0242290124
Exploitant ORANGE
Implantation 29/07/2005
Mise en service 13/08/2005
Modification 28/05/2021
Station N°0242700189
Exploitant SFR
Implantation 25/11/2005
Mise en service 08/02/2002
Modification 30/05/2022
Station N°0242750155
Exploitant BOUYGUES TELECOM
Implantation 10/03/2006
Mise en service 04/12/2006
Modification 03/03/2023

Cette antenne

Index France (208)


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