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!colspan="2"| <big>[https://www.cartoradio.fr/index.html#/cartographie/lonlat/4.9600/48.0589 Support ANFR n°458138] [https://www.google.com/maps/search/?api=1&query=48.0589%2C4.9600 🗺️]</big>
!colspan="2"| <big>[https://www.cartoradio.fr/index.html#/cartographie/lonlat/4.9600/48.0589 Support ANFR n°458138] [https://www.google.com/maps/search/?api=1&query=48.0589%2C4.9600 🗺️]/[https://carte-fh.lafibre.info/galerie_photo/qsearch.php?q=458138 📷]</big>
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| '''Nature''' || Pylône autostable
| '''Nature''' || Pylône autostable
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| '''Propriétaire''' || ATC FRANCE
| '''Propriétaire''' || ATC FRANCE
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| '''Exploitants''' || SFR, FREE MOBILE, ORANGE, BOUYGUES TELECOM
| '''Exploitants''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM, FREE MOBILE, ORANGE, SFR
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| '''Nb antennes''' || 11
| '''Nb antennes''' || 11
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{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 35.0m FREE MOBILE</big>
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne FREE MOBILE</big>
|-
| '''Hauteur''' || 35.0m
|-
|-
| '''Type''' || Panneau
| '''Type''' || Panneau
|-
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 0.0°
| '''Orientations (3)''' || 0.0°, 140.0°, 240.0°
|-
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
|-
| '''UMTS 900''' || FREE MOBILE: 26/07/2018
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#FFA500">5G</span> - 5G NR 700
|-
|-
| colspan="2" |- '''''⬛ FREE MOBILE''': ✅ 27/10/2021''<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (723.0 MHz-733.0 MHz)<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (778.0 MHz-788.0 MHz)
|-
|-
| '''LTE 2600''' || FREE MOBILE: 26/07/2018
|-
|-
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#FF0000">4G</span> - LTE 1800
|-
|-
| '''LTE 1800''' || FREE MOBILE: 26/07/2018
| colspan="2" |- '''''⬛ FREE MOBILE''': ✅ 26/07/2018''<br>↳ '''15.0 MHz''' (1750.0 MHz-1765.0 MHz)<br>↳ '''15.0 MHz''' (1845.0 MHz-1860.0 MHz)
|-
|-
|-
|-
| '''LTE 700''' || FREE MOBILE: 17/06/2019
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#FF0000">4G</span> - LTE 2100
|-
|-
| colspan="2" |- '''''⬛ FREE MOBILE''': ❓''<br>↳ '''14.8 MHz''' (1950.1 MHz-1964.9 MHz)<br>↳ '''14.8 MHz''' (2140.1 MHz-2154.9 MHz)
|-
|-
| '''5G NR 700''' || FREE MOBILE: 27/10/2021
|-
|-
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#FF0000">4G</span> - LTE 2600
|-
|-
| '''LTE 2100''' || FREE MOBILE: Non activé/Inconnu
| colspan="2" |- '''''⬛ FREE MOBILE''': ✅ 26/07/2018''<br>↳ '''20.0 MHz''' (2550.0 MHz-2570.0 MHz)<br>↳ '''20.0 MHz''' (2670.0 MHz-2690.0 MHz)
|-
|-
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 35.0m FREE MOBILE</big>
|-
|-
| '''Type''' || Panneau
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#FF0000">4G</span> - LTE 700
|-
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 140.0°
| colspan="2" |- '''''⬛ FREE MOBILE''': ✅ 17/06/2019''<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (723.0 MHz-733.0 MHz)<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (778.0 MHz-788.0 MHz)
|-
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
|-
| '''UMTS 900''' || FREE MOBILE: 26/07/2018
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#0000FF">3G</span> - UMTS 900
|-
|-
| colspan="2" |- '''''⬛ FREE MOBILE''': ✅ 26/07/2018''<br>↳ '''5.0 MHz''' (899.9 MHz-904.9 MHz)<br>↳ '''5.0 MHz''' (944.9 MHz-949.9 MHz)
|-
|-
| '''LTE 2600''' || FREE MOBILE: 26/07/2018
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne FREE MOBILE</big>
|-
|-
| '''Hauteur''' || 36.5m
|-
|-
| '''LTE 1800''' || FREE MOBILE: 26/07/2018
| '''Type''' || Antenne parabolique
|-
|-
| '''Orientation (1)''' || 229.2°
|-
|-
| '''LTE 700''' || FREE MOBILE: 17/06/2019
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
|-
| '''5G NR 700''' || FREE MOBILE: 27/10/2021
|-
|-
!colspan="2"| '''FH ([https://carte-fh.lafibre.info/index.php?no_sup_init=458138 CARTE])'''
|-
|-
| '''LTE 2100''' || FREE MOBILE: Non activé/Inconnu
| colspan="2" |- '''''⬛ FREE MOBILE''': ✅ 30/08/2019''<br>↳ '''0.3 GHz''' (32.0 GHz-32.3 GHz)
|-
|-
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 35.0m FREE MOBILE</big>
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne FREE MOBILE</big>
|-
| '''Type''' || Panneau
|-
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 240.0°
| '''Hauteur''' || 36.5m
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
| '''UMTS 900''' || FREE MOBILE: 26/07/2018
|-
|-
| '''LTE 2600''' || FREE MOBILE: 26/07/2018
|-
|-
| '''LTE 1800''' || FREE MOBILE: 26/07/2018
|-
|-
| '''LTE 700''' || FREE MOBILE: 17/06/2019
|-
|-
| '''5G NR 700''' || FREE MOBILE: 27/10/2021
|-
|-
| '''LTE 2100''' || FREE MOBILE: Non activé/Inconnu
|-
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 36.5m FREE MOBILE</big>
|-
|-
| '''Type''' || Antenne parabolique
| '''Type''' || Antenne parabolique
|-
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 229.2°
| '''Orientation (1)''' || 149.4°
|-
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
|-
| '''FH ([https://carte-fh.lafibre.info/index.php?no_sup_init=458138 CARTE])''' || FREE MOBILE: 30/08/2019
!colspan="2"| '''FH ([https://carte-fh.lafibre.info/index.php?no_sup_init=458138 CARTE])'''
|-
| colspan="2" |- '''''⬛ FREE MOBILE''': ✅ 18/07/2023''<br>↳ '''3.0 GHz''' (71.0 GHz-74.0 GHz)
|-
|-
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 36.5m FREE MOBILE</big>
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne ORANGE</big>
|-
|-
| '''Type''' || Antenne parabolique
| '''Hauteur''' || 28.5m
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 149.4°
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
| '''FH ([https://carte-fh.lafibre.info/index.php?no_sup_init=458138 CARTE])''' || FREE MOBILE: Non activé/Inconnu
|-
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 28.5m ORANGE</big>
|-
|-
| '''Type''' || Panneau
| '''Type''' || Panneau
|-
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 120.0°
| '''Orientations (2)''' || 120.0°, 290.0°
|-
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
|-
| '''GSM 900''' || ORANGE: 16/11/2001
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#FF0000">4G</span> - LTE 1800
|-
|-
|-
| '''UMTS 900''' || ORANGE: 12/10/2016
| colspan="2" |- '''''🟧 ORANGE''': ✅ 31/01/2022''<br>↳ '''20.0 MHz''' (1710.0 MHz-1730.0 MHz)<br>↳ '''20.0 MHz''' (1805.0 MHz-1825.0 MHz)
|-
|-
|-
|-
| '''LTE 800''' || ORANGE: 02/04/2019
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#FF0000">4G</span> - LTE 700
|-
|-
| colspan="2" |- '''''🟧 ORANGE''': ✅ 05/05/2022''<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (708.0 MHz-718.0 MHz)<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (763.0 MHz-773.0 MHz)
|-
|-
| '''LTE 700''' || ORANGE: 05/05/2022
|-
|-
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#FF0000">4G</span> - LTE 800
|-
|-
| '''LTE 1800''' || ORANGE: 31/01/2022
| colspan="2" |- '''''🟧 ORANGE''': ✅ 02/04/2019''<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (811.0 MHz-821.0 MHz)<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (852.0 MHz-862.0 MHz)
|-
|-
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 28.5m ORANGE</big>
|-
|-
| '''Type''' || Panneau
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#0000FF">3G</span> - UMTS 900
|-
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 290.0°
| colspan="2" |- '''''🟧 ORANGE''': ✅ 12/10/2016''<br>↳ '''8.7 MHz''' (889.9 MHz-898.6 MHz)<br>↳ '''8.7 MHz''' (934.9 MHz-943.6 MHz)
|-
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
|-
| '''GSM 900''' || ORANGE: 16/11/2001
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#06ba06">2G</span> - GSM 900
|-
|-
| colspan="2" |- '''''🟧 ORANGE''': ✅ 16/11/2001''<br>↳ '''8.7 MHz''' (889.9 MHz-898.6 MHz)<br>↳ '''8.7 MHz''' (934.9 MHz-943.6 MHz)
|-
|-
| '''UMTS 900''' || ORANGE: 12/10/2016
{| class="wikitable"
|-
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne BOUYGUES TELECOM, SFR</big>
|-
| '''LTE 800''' || ORANGE: 02/04/2019
|-
|-
| '''LTE 700''' || ORANGE: 05/05/2022
|-
|-
| '''LTE 1800''' || ORANGE: 31/01/2022
|-
|-
{| class="wikitable"
| '''Hauteur''' || 39.4m
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 39.4m SFR, BOUYGUES TELECOM</big>
|-
|-
| '''Type''' || Panneau
| '''Type''' || Panneau
|-
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 20.0°
| '''Orientations (3)''' || 20.0°, 130.0°, 270.0°
|-
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
|-
| '''GSM 900''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 06/10/2000<br> SFR: 19/01/2007
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#FF0000">4G</span> - LTE 800
|-
|-
| colspan="2" |- '''''🟥 SFR''': ✅ 27/09/2016''<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (801.0 MHz-811.0 MHz)<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (842.0 MHz-852.0 MHz) <br>- '''''🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM''': ✅ 30/12/2019''<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (791.0 MHz-801.0 MHz)<br>↳ '''10.0 MHz''' (832.0 MHz-842.0 MHz)
|-
|-
| '''UMTS 2100''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 10/02/2009<br> SFR: 28/09/2016
|-
|-
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#0000FF">3G</span> - UMTS 2100
|-
|-
| '''UMTS 900''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 30/12/2019<br> SFR: 26/05/2011
| colspan="2" |- '''''🟥 SFR''': ✅ 28/09/2016''<br>↳ '''14.8 MHz''' (1920.5 MHz-1935.3 MHz)<br>↳ '''14.8 MHz''' (2110.5 MHz-2125.3 MHz)<br>↳ '''5.0 MHz''' (1915.1 MHz-1920.1 MHz)<br>↳ '''5.0 MHz''' (1959.9 MHz-1964.9 MHz)<br>↳ '''5.0 MHz''' (2149.9 MHz-2154.9 MHz) <br>- '''''🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM''': ✅ 10/02/2009''<br>↳ '''14.8 MHz''' (1935.3 MHz-1950.1 MHz)<br>↳ '''14.8 MHz''' (2125.3 MHz-2140.1 MHz)<br>↳ '''5.0 MHz''' (1900.1 MHz-1905.1 MHz)
|-
|-
|-
|-
| '''LTE 800''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 30/12/2019<br> SFR: 27/09/2016
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#0000FF">3G</span> - UMTS 900
|-
|-
{| class="wikitable"
| colspan="2" |- '''''🟥 SFR''': ✅ 26/05/2011''<br>↳ '''8.7 MHz''' (906.2 MHz-914.9 MHz)<br>↳ '''8.7 MHz''' (951.2 MHz-959.9 MHz) <br>- '''''🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM''': ✅ 30/12/2019''<br>↳ '''9.8 MHz''' (880.1 MHz-889.9 MHz)<br>↳ '''9.8 MHz''' (925.1 MHz-934.9 MHz)
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 39.4m SFR, BOUYGUES TELECOM</big>
|-
|-
| '''Type''' || Panneau
|-
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 130.0°
!colspan="2"| '''<span style="color:#06ba06">2G</span> - GSM 900
|-
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
| colspan="2" |- '''''🟥 SFR''': ✅ 19/01/2007''<br>↳ '''8.7 MHz''' (906.2 MHz-914.9 MHz)<br>↳ '''8.7 MHz''' (951.2 MHz-959.9 MHz) <br>- '''''🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM''': ✅ 06/10/2000''<br>↳ '''9.8 MHz''' (880.1 MHz-889.9 MHz)<br>↳ '''9.8 MHz''' (925.1 MHz-934.9 MHz)
|-
| '''GSM 900''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 06/10/2000<br> SFR: 19/01/2007
|-
|-
| '''UMTS 2100''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 10/02/2009<br> SFR: 28/09/2016
|-
|-
| '''UMTS 900''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 30/12/2019<br> SFR: 26/05/2011
|-
|-
| '''LTE 800''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 30/12/2019<br> SFR: 27/09/2016
|-
|-
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 39.4m SFR, BOUYGUES TELECOM</big>
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne SFR</big>
|-
|-
| '''Type''' || Panneau
| '''Hauteur''' || 39.0m
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 270.0°
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
| '''GSM 900''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 06/10/2000<br> SFR: 19/01/2007
|-
|-
| '''UMTS 2100''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 10/02/2009<br> SFR: 28/09/2016
|-
|-
| '''UMTS 900''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 30/12/2019<br> SFR: 26/05/2011
|-
|-
| '''LTE 800''' || BOUYGUES TELECOM: 30/12/2019<br> SFR: 27/09/2016
|-
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| <big>Antenne 39.0m SFR</big>
|-
|-
| '''Type''' || Antenne parabolique
| '''Type''' || Antenne parabolique
|-
|-
| '''Orientation''' || 115.1°
| '''Orientation (1)''' || 115.1°
|-
|-
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
!colspan="2"|Emetteur(s)
|-
|-
| '''FH ([https://carte-fh.lafibre.info/index.php?no_sup_init=458138 CARTE])''' || SFR: 19/09/2016
!colspan="2"| '''FH ([https://carte-fh.lafibre.info/index.php?no_sup_init=458138 CARTE])'''
|-
| colspan="2" |- '''''🟥 SFR''': ✅ 19/09/2016''<br>↳ '''0.2 GHz''' (37.3 GHz-37.5 GHz)
|-
|-
|}
|}

Latest revision as of 14:15, 22 September 2023

Support ANFR n°458138 🗺️/📷
Nature Pylône autostable
Hauteur TOT 42.0m
Propriétaire ATC FRANCE
Exploitants BOUYGUES TELECOM, FREE MOBILE, ORANGE, SFR
Nb antennes 11
Antenne FREE MOBILE
Hauteur 35.0m
Type Panneau
Orientations (3) 0.0°, 140.0°, 240.0°
Emetteur(s)
5G - 5G NR 700
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 27/10/2021
↳ 10.0 MHz (723.0 MHz-733.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (778.0 MHz-788.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 1800
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 26/07/2018
↳ 15.0 MHz (1750.0 MHz-1765.0 MHz)
↳ 15.0 MHz (1845.0 MHz-1860.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 2100
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ❓
↳ 14.8 MHz (1950.1 MHz-1964.9 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2140.1 MHz-2154.9 MHz)
4G - LTE 2600
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 26/07/2018
↳ 20.0 MHz (2550.0 MHz-2570.0 MHz)
↳ 20.0 MHz (2670.0 MHz-2690.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 700
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 17/06/2019
↳ 10.0 MHz (723.0 MHz-733.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (778.0 MHz-788.0 MHz)
3G - UMTS 900
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 26/07/2018
↳ 5.0 MHz (899.9 MHz-904.9 MHz)
↳ 5.0 MHz (944.9 MHz-949.9 MHz)
Antenne FREE MOBILE
Hauteur 36.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 229.2°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 30/08/2019
↳ 0.3 GHz (32.0 GHz-32.3 GHz)
Antenne FREE MOBILE
Hauteur 36.5m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 149.4°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- ⬛ FREE MOBILE: ✅ 18/07/2023
↳ 3.0 GHz (71.0 GHz-74.0 GHz)
Antenne ORANGE
Hauteur 28.5m
Type Panneau
Orientations (2) 120.0°, 290.0°
Emetteur(s)
4G - LTE 1800
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 31/01/2022
↳ 20.0 MHz (1710.0 MHz-1730.0 MHz)
↳ 20.0 MHz (1805.0 MHz-1825.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 700
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 05/05/2022
↳ 10.0 MHz (708.0 MHz-718.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (763.0 MHz-773.0 MHz)
4G - LTE 800
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 02/04/2019
↳ 10.0 MHz (811.0 MHz-821.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (852.0 MHz-862.0 MHz)
3G - UMTS 900
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 12/10/2016
↳ 8.7 MHz (889.9 MHz-898.6 MHz)
↳ 8.7 MHz (934.9 MHz-943.6 MHz)
2G - GSM 900
- 🟧 ORANGE: ✅ 16/11/2001
↳ 8.7 MHz (889.9 MHz-898.6 MHz)
↳ 8.7 MHz (934.9 MHz-943.6 MHz)
Antenne BOUYGUES TELECOM, SFR
Hauteur 39.4m
Type Panneau
Orientations (3) 20.0°, 130.0°, 270.0°
Emetteur(s)
4G - LTE 800
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 27/09/2016
↳ 10.0 MHz (801.0 MHz-811.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (842.0 MHz-852.0 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 30/12/2019
↳ 10.0 MHz (791.0 MHz-801.0 MHz)
↳ 10.0 MHz (832.0 MHz-842.0 MHz)
3G - UMTS 2100
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 28/09/2016
↳ 14.8 MHz (1920.5 MHz-1935.3 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2110.5 MHz-2125.3 MHz)
↳ 5.0 MHz (1915.1 MHz-1920.1 MHz)
↳ 5.0 MHz (1959.9 MHz-1964.9 MHz)
↳ 5.0 MHz (2149.9 MHz-2154.9 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 10/02/2009
↳ 14.8 MHz (1935.3 MHz-1950.1 MHz)
↳ 14.8 MHz (2125.3 MHz-2140.1 MHz)
↳ 5.0 MHz (1900.1 MHz-1905.1 MHz)
3G - UMTS 900
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 26/05/2011
↳ 8.7 MHz (906.2 MHz-914.9 MHz)
↳ 8.7 MHz (951.2 MHz-959.9 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 30/12/2019
↳ 9.8 MHz (880.1 MHz-889.9 MHz)
↳ 9.8 MHz (925.1 MHz-934.9 MHz)
2G - GSM 900
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 19/01/2007
↳ 8.7 MHz (906.2 MHz-914.9 MHz)
↳ 8.7 MHz (951.2 MHz-959.9 MHz)
- 🟦 BOUYGUES TELECOM: ✅ 06/10/2000
↳ 9.8 MHz (880.1 MHz-889.9 MHz)
↳ 9.8 MHz (925.1 MHz-934.9 MHz)
Antenne SFR
Hauteur 39.0m
Type Antenne parabolique
Orientation (1) 115.1°
Emetteur(s)
FH (CARTE)
- 🟥 SFR: ✅ 19/09/2016
↳ 0.2 GHz (37.3 GHz-37.5 GHz)
Station N°0520990376
Exploitant FREE MOBILE
Implantation 17/11/2017
Mise en service 26/07/2018
Modification 13/01/2023
Station N°0522290052
Exploitant ORANGE
Implantation 16/11/2001
Mise en service 16/11/2001
Modification 11/03/2022
Station N°0522700063
Exploitant SFR
Implantation 26/08/2005
Mise en service 19/01/2007
Modification 24/06/2016
Station N°0522750068
Exploitant BOUYGUES TELECOM
Implantation 08/10/1999
Mise en service 06/10/2000
Modification 11/10/2019
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